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we've seen the heavy assault on our post in benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. we've seen rage and violence directed at american embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. it is hard for the american people to make sense of that because it is senseless. the people of egypt, libya, yemen, and tunisia did not trade the tyranny of a dictator for the tyranny of a mob. gwen: but the protests have spread as this google map shows. throughout the middle east and beyond. you can look and see -- it's pakistan, in london, it's everywhere all over the region and beyond. what happened in benghazi was tragic, but is this something that had been building for some time, david? or was this just the spark? >> gwen, i think it was the flip side of these revolutions that we all watched with sauch maysment and such enthusiasm in some cases in january and february of last year. you know, at the time of those uprising, president obama said what was remarkable about the arab spring was that it wasn't about us, it was about them. it was about throwing avenue
we've seen the heavy assault on our post in benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. we've seen rage and violence directed at american embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. it is hard for the american people to make sense of that because it is senseless. the people of egypt, libya, yemen, and tunisia did not trade the tyranny of a dictator for the tyranny of a mob. gwen: but the protests have spread as this google map shows. throughout the middle east...
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or saving benghazi, i think it is helpful. that's the sort of debate that is going on. i told you something about american foreign policy. we can't walk away from this don't make drastic decisions and pull back because of this crisis. there's a battle going on within arab countries, muslim countries, it's going to be their own battle and we have to understand we don't want to support the ones who are the extremists who will have the advantage if we do. >> brown: very interesting developments, shibley telhami and lawrence pintak, thank you very much. >> pleasure. >> woodruff: still to come on the newshour: hazing on college campuses; a syrian town caught in the crossfire; the presidential contest as romney releases tax forms; plus, shields and brooks. but first, the other news of the day. here's kwame holman. >> holman: all 33,000 u.s. troop sent to afghanistan as part of a military surge now have left the country. the official announcement came today from defense secretary leon panetta. president obama ordered the extra forces
or saving benghazi, i think it is helpful. that's the sort of debate that is going on. i told you something about american foreign policy. we can't walk away from this don't make drastic decisions and pull back because of this crisis. there's a battle going on within arab countries, muslim countries, it's going to be their own battle and we have to understand we don't want to support the ones who are the extremists who will have the advantage if we do. >> brown: very interesting...
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benghazi is a city that we defended. how could we not have known that based on the instances that we are hearing about now that something might happen on 9/11? it was a massive failure of intelligence which is a possibility. the state department thought it was operate nothing a benign environment that it didn't need to gather intelligence and i am worried, it is more likely the latter explanation and it speaks to a world view that is flawed. ip supported overthrowing gaddafi once he threatened with terrorism. but who do you replace him? here 18 months after it started. the writ of the central government does not run country wide. there is it a risk of fralmentation and terrorist will take root in the meditarianium. and this is spreading in the region. and we don't understand what the risks are. president likes to say gaddafi is overturned without any american casulties. there is an un envoy to talk to president assaud. he killed 20,000, of his own people. does the un really think he will help us with this? >> the envoy m
benghazi is a city that we defended. how could we not have known that based on the instances that we are hearing about now that something might happen on 9/11? it was a massive failure of intelligence which is a possibility. the state department thought it was operate nothing a benign environment that it didn't need to gather intelligence and i am worried, it is more likely the latter explanation and it speaks to a world view that is flawed. ip supported overthrowing gaddafi once he threatened...
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benghazi is a city that we defended. how could we not have known that based on the instances that we are hearing about now that something might happen on 9/11? it was a massive failure of intelligence which is a possibility. the state department thought it was operate nothing a benign environment that it didn't need to gather intelligence and i am worried, it is more likely the latter explanation and it speaks to a world view that is flawed. ip supported overthrowing gaddafi once he threatened with terrorism. but who do you replace him? here 18 months after it started. the writ of the central government does not run country wide. there is it a risk of fralmentation and terrorist will take root in the meditarianium. and this is spreading in the region. and we don't understand what the risks are. president likes to say gaddafi is overturned without any american casulties. there is an un envoy to talk to president assaud. he killed 20,000, of his own people. does the un really think he will help us with this? >> the envoy m
benghazi is a city that we defended. how could we not have known that based on the instances that we are hearing about now that something might happen on 9/11? it was a massive failure of intelligence which is a possibility. the state department thought it was operate nothing a benign environment that it didn't need to gather intelligence and i am worried, it is more likely the latter explanation and it speaks to a world view that is flawed. ip supported overthrowing gaddafi once he threatened...
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security have been tighter at that consulate given the history of terror activity in benghazi? >>guest: obviously we did have a strong security presence and, unfortunately, two of the four americans who died in benghazi were there to provide security. obviously it wasn't sufficient in the circumstances to prevent the overrun of the consulate. this is among the things that, obviously, will be looked at, as the investigation unfolds --. >>chris: could it have been stronger? >>guest: is why we have upped our presence in tripoli and other parts of the world. chris, we have to see what the assessment reveals. obviously, there was a significant security preparation defending our consulate and our other facility in benghazi and that did not prove sufficient to the moment. >>chris: ambassador rice, thank you very much for coming in today and discussing the fast-moving developments in that part of the world. >> next, the head of the house intelligence committee with the latest on who was behind the debtly attack on our >> chris: there are still more questions than answers about the >>ch
security have been tighter at that consulate given the history of terror activity in benghazi? >>guest: obviously we did have a strong security presence and, unfortunately, two of the four americans who died in benghazi were there to provide security. obviously it wasn't sufficient in the circumstances to prevent the overrun of the consulate. this is among the things that, obviously, will be looked at, as the investigation unfolds --. >>chris: could it have been stronger?...
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our presence in tripoli as in benghazi is relatively new, as you'll recall. we have been back post-revolution, only for a matter of months. but, i have visited there myself. both to tripoli and benghazi. i was very grateful to have strong security presence with me. as part of our embassy detachment there. we certainly are aware that libya is a place that there has been increasingly violent incidents. the security personnel that the state department thought were required were in place. we'll see when the investigation unfolds whether what transpired in benghazi might have unfolded differently in different circumstances. but the president has been very clear, the protection of american personnel is and will remain our top priority. that's why we have reinforced our presence in tripoli and elsewhere. >> there have been protests around the world. president obama pledge to repair america's relationship with the muslim world. why is the u.s. even less popular today in some of these muslim/arab countries. >> jake, we're not impotent. we're not less popular to challe
our presence in tripoli as in benghazi is relatively new, as you'll recall. we have been back post-revolution, only for a matter of months. but, i have visited there myself. both to tripoli and benghazi. i was very grateful to have strong security presence with me. as part of our embassy detachment there. we certainly are aware that libya is a place that there has been increasingly violent incidents. the security personnel that the state department thought were required were in place. we'll see...
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consulate in benghazi on tuesday. they can be. marines have been deployed at the consulate and embassy. the security arrangements there is a little bit lower than usual. a little bit more temporary as handbags as far as walls in had some cases. to be sure that is being looked at, that facility. in fact there's nobody there right now in terms of american sta staff>> we talked about sending in 50 marines. the war ships are in labia. there is no way they can protect the higher region. you have been there at the embassy in yemen. if they do if the u.s. secures the embassies are we talking about one or two security officers or hundreds that surround the whole compound? >> you are talking about beefed up security a heightened alert. u.s. marines are train to do this job train to do defend the embassies. there can be beefing up adding personnel. the presence off the libyan coast for example that is there as much as presence as anything else in case a further evacuation of u.s. personnel u.s. individuals might be needed from libya. there
consulate in benghazi on tuesday. they can be. marines have been deployed at the consulate and embassy. the security arrangements there is a little bit lower than usual. a little bit more temporary as handbags as far as walls in had some cases. to be sure that is being looked at, that facility. in fact there's nobody there right now in terms of american sta staff>> we talked about sending in 50 marines. the war ships are in labia. there is no way they can protect the higher region. you...
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consulate in benghazi that killed four american citizens. sean smith and ambassador chris stevens are among the identified. i didn't know sean smith. i know he is a great american who served his country. but i have gotten to know chris stevens quite well. in his death, the libyan people have lost a great champion and believer in the peaceful aspirations of their democratic revolution. the american people have lost a selfless and dedicated servant of our interests and our values. and i have lost a friend. my thoughts and prayers today are with chrises family and his loved ones and those of his fallen colleagues. our first order of business now is to make sure that our citizens living in libya and egypt and elsewhere across the region in the world are safe. americans look to the government in libya and egypt and elsewhere to meet their responsibilities in this regard. they also look to the libyan government to ensure that those responsible for yesterday's attack in benghazi are swiftly brought to justice. in all of these critical tasks, we are
consulate in benghazi that killed four american citizens. sean smith and ambassador chris stevens are among the identified. i didn't know sean smith. i know he is a great american who served his country. but i have gotten to know chris stevens quite well. in his death, the libyan people have lost a great champion and believer in the peaceful aspirations of their democratic revolution. the american people have lost a selfless and dedicated servant of our interests and our values. and i have lost...
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consultate in benghazi that killed four americans including ambassador chris stevens. the top libyan official now says that the attack on tuesday was quote his words preplanned. al-qaeda says the operation was revenge for our killing a top al-qaeda leader. what do we know? >> first of all, chris, we are are obviously investigating this very closely. the fbi has the lead in this investigation. the information the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned premeditated attack. that what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous rehe action to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. that people quartered outside of the emba -- people gathered outside of the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came it heavy weapons which unfortunately are quite common in post revolutionary libya and that then spun out of control. but we don't see at this point signs that this was a coordinated planned premeditated attack. obviously we will wait for the r
consultate in benghazi that killed four americans including ambassador chris stevens. the top libyan official now says that the attack on tuesday was quote his words preplanned. al-qaeda says the operation was revenge for our killing a top al-qaeda leader. what do we know? >> first of all, chris, we are are obviously investigating this very closely. the fbi has the lead in this investigation. the information the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this...
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at the height of the libyan revolution, chris led our diplomatic post in benghazi. with characteristic skill, courage and resolve, he built partnerships with libyan revolutionaries and helped them as they planned to build a new libya. >> warner: flags over the white house, the capitol and the state department were lowered to half staff, and tributes to stevens poured in. a middle east veteran fluent in arabic and french, stevens had been on the job since may, introducing himself to the libyan people via youtube. >> i look forward to exploring those possibilities with you as we work together to build a free democratic and prosperous libya. see you soon. >> warner: killed alongside stevens was sean smith, a state department officer, and two americans as-yet unidentified. in her own statement today, secretary clinton condemned the attacks in the wake of u.s. support for the libyan revolution. >> many americans are asking-- indeed, i asked myself-- how could this happen? how could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction? th
at the height of the libyan revolution, chris led our diplomatic post in benghazi. with characteristic skill, courage and resolve, he built partnerships with libyan revolutionaries and helped them as they planned to build a new libya. >> warner: flags over the white house, the capitol and the state department were lowered to half staff, and tributes to stevens poured in. a middle east veteran fluent in arabic and french, stevens had been on the job since may, introducing himself to the...
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mission in benghazi that killed a u.s. ambassador earlier this month. >> i think pretty clearly it was a terrorist attack. >> brown: at the pentagon today, defense secretary leon panetta seemed to have little doubt about what happened at the u.s. consulate in libya more than two weeks ago. >> a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate and against our individuals. what terrorists were involved, i think, remains to be determined by an investigation, but it clearly was a group of terrorists who conducted that attack against the facility. >> brown: what seemed clear today, though, had seemed less so just days ago. the original explanation for what happened the evening of september 11 was that an america-made movie denigrating islam had incited a mob, which had then stormed the u.s. consulate in benghazi. that attack left four americans dead, including u.s. ambassador to libya, christopher stephens. but in the weeks since, even as protests spread across the muslim world over the anti- muslim film, a
mission in benghazi that killed a u.s. ambassador earlier this month. >> i think pretty clearly it was a terrorist attack. >> brown: at the pentagon today, defense secretary leon panetta seemed to have little doubt about what happened at the u.s. consulate in libya more than two weeks ago. >> a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate and against our individuals. what terrorists were involved, i think, remains to be determined by an investigation,...
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consulate in benghazi returned to the andrews air force base this afternoon. president obama was there and he vowed to bring justice to the men who killed them. >> even as voices of suspicious and in trust that seek to divide countries and cultures, the united states of america will never retreat from the world. >> four people have been arrested in libya what were on the scene of the attack, but the government says they are not linked to the murders. that investigation continues and we have a live report on that now. arwa damon is with me from benghazi tonight and i know you had a chance to go to the consulate there. what did you see? >> reporter: it was really quite chilling, horrifying to be walking through some of the buildings there just imagining what had transpired, taken place. they were all burnt. there was black soot covering the walls. ashes over some of the furniture, the chandeliers. there was debris all over the floor. looters also had moved in after the attack took place pillaging this compound that even after the assault was not really secured b
consulate in benghazi returned to the andrews air force base this afternoon. president obama was there and he vowed to bring justice to the men who killed them. >> even as voices of suspicious and in trust that seek to divide countries and cultures, the united states of america will never retreat from the world. >> four people have been arrested in libya what were on the scene of the attack, but the government says they are not linked to the murders. that investigation continues and...
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consulate in benghazi showed just how much the ground in the region has shifted for washington in an apparent attempt to pour some water on the fire the obama administration said they thought it was a small and fringe group that carried out the attack that in no way do they blame the people of libya or the government of libya but secretary of state couldn't hold back the sense of frustration which many americans share right now when she said this how could this have. how could this happen in a country we helped liberate in a city we helped save from destruction ambassador chris stevens who died in the storming of the consulate in benghazi he played an active role in bringing down colonel qadhafi the revolution has effectively could have managed to the secular rule of qaddafi and broady and islam is the government that currently be a leader who basically all seize power to the americans as apologize for the attack in benghazi and pledged to hunt down the perpetrators but that doesn't change the fact that the revolution has sort of unleashed this kind of religious extremism the adminis
consulate in benghazi showed just how much the ground in the region has shifted for washington in an apparent attempt to pour some water on the fire the obama administration said they thought it was a small and fringe group that carried out the attack that in no way do they blame the people of libya or the government of libya but secretary of state couldn't hold back the sense of frustration which many americans share right now when she said this how could this have. how could this happen in a...
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. >> address have been made in benghazi -- arrests have been made in benghazi. it is not clear whether this was a planned attack. president obama is campaigning for reelection. he condemned the violence. >> i want those around the world to hear me who would do less harm -- no act of terror will go unpunished. it will not deny the life for the values that we boston the light of the values we proudly present to the rest of the world -- it will not dim the light of the volumes that we proudly -- of the values we proudly present to the world. >> somebody made an offensive film, but that does not justify these actions against americans or american embassies. people can demonstrate an express their opinion peacefully -- demonstrate and express their opinion peacefully. >> among the people, america and its western allies cannot expect much influence or even much trust. there used to be protest against the west before the arab uprisings. the difference then was that they were kept in check by the authoritarian leaders of police states who depended on western support. fo
. >> address have been made in benghazi -- arrests have been made in benghazi. it is not clear whether this was a planned attack. president obama is campaigning for reelection. he condemned the violence. >> i want those around the world to hear me who would do less harm -- no act of terror will go unpunished. it will not deny the life for the values that we boston the light of the values we proudly present to the rest of the world -- it will not dim the light of the volumes that we...
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the ambassador is typically in prip polly not benghazi. it is tough to say. i think it was predetermined. >> should the consulate been beefed up ahead of time given the warnings we mhave had? >> i think anybody in my profession or the security profession in general would have said the security needed to be beefed up. the history of violence there and the threat that consulate faces. >> thank you for having me. >> they already beefed up the marine de patchment. there's unrest across the region. retired four star general jack keen wonders what he believes. so fys to have you on board. thank you so much, sir. >> good to see you. >> you have had some radical players. is it possible to reason with them and possible for the president to talk to them and say this is what the american people want? is any one listening or the people that count listen or there are so many rouge players there it doesn't matter? >> every muslim country has a radical islamic movement inside of it. the governments have radical i gos lambists vying for power more control, et cetera. after 3
the ambassador is typically in prip polly not benghazi. it is tough to say. i think it was predetermined. >> should the consulate been beefed up ahead of time given the warnings we mhave had? >> i think anybody in my profession or the security profession in general would have said the security needed to be beefed up. the history of violence there and the threat that consulate faces. >> thank you for having me. >> they already beefed up the marine de patchment. there's...
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she has been reporting on the attack in benghazi. she's based in cairo, where i reached her by phone a short time ago. nancy yousseff, you've been talking to a colleague of yours about what happened in benghazi tuesday night. what have you learned? >> we spoke to one of the first guards that the attackers encountered. he said around 9:35 he was standing outside and men pulled up and started throwing grenades into the compound, at the same time, he estimated as many as 120 men came from all sides into the compound. they were screaming sayingout you're an infidel, you're working with the americans." and they began to move within the compound. he said that it was well coordinated. he said that they were overrun. that he was one of about five contracted security guards accompanied by members of the libyan brigade that emerged during the revolution back here. >> woodruff: the associated press is reporting that there may have been infiltrateors inside libyan security forces that shared the p the results of this safe house. have you been ab
she has been reporting on the attack in benghazi. she's based in cairo, where i reached her by phone a short time ago. nancy yousseff, you've been talking to a colleague of yours about what happened in benghazi tuesday night. what have you learned? >> we spoke to one of the first guards that the attackers encountered. he said around 9:35 he was standing outside and men pulled up and started throwing grenades into the compound, at the same time, he estimated as many as 120 men came from...
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the attacks on the civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. we are grateful for the assistance we received from the libyan government and from the libyan people. there should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. and i also appreciate that in recent days the leaders of other countries in the region, including egypt, tunisia, and yemen have taken steps to secure our can diplomatic facilities and called for calm. and so have religious authorities around the globe. but understand the attacks of the last two weeks are not simply an assault on america. they're also an assault on the very ideals upon which the united nations was founded. the notion that people can resolve their differences peacefully, that i did proceed massey can take the place of war, that in an interdependent world, all of us have a stake in working towards greater opportunity and security for our citizens. if we are serious about upholding these ideals, it will not be enough to put more guards in front of an embassy or
the attacks on the civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. we are grateful for the assistance we received from the libyan government and from the libyan people. there should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. and i also appreciate that in recent days the leaders of other countries in the region, including egypt, tunisia, and yemen have taken steps to secure our can diplomatic facilities and called for calm. and so have...
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consulate in benghazi. using the grenades, mortars, and military tactics they set the consulate on fire. witnesses told them it had been peaceful until the militants showed up. >> the protest was supposed to be a quiet, simple peaceful one, but people started shooting at some point, some people got injured from the lybian side. >> reporter: the u.s. and libyan personnel, battling. building to building. four americans, including the ambassador, were killed. was it a 9/11 anniversary attack? and did the militants know that he was in benghazi? was he the target? they say it was too sophisticated to be spontaneous. today, the libyan government which has close relationships with the united states. apologized. and there was a pro-american demonstration in benghazi, but elsewhere in the region there were anti-american protests. in tunisia, in gaza, the protests continued in front of the u.s. embassy. friday. this is the dark side, brian, of the arab spring movement which empowered many looking for democracy, but a
consulate in benghazi. using the grenades, mortars, and military tactics they set the consulate on fire. witnesses told them it had been peaceful until the militants showed up. >> the protest was supposed to be a quiet, simple peaceful one, but people started shooting at some point, some people got injured from the lybian side. >> reporter: the u.s. and libyan personnel, battling. building to building. four americans, including the ambassador, were killed. was it a 9/11 anniversary...
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consulate in benghazi, libya, returning home. good evening. i'm bret baier. we'll have more from that somber ceremony in a minute. a morning that began with friday prayers turned in to a day with americans under assault on several continents. fires burning. tear gas flowing. bullets flying around u.s. embassies. the questions tonight focus on security. what warnings the president and his administration may have had of the deadly attack on the libyan consulate on september 11. a day that should have sent off alarm bells to begin with. rosenfeld is at the state department and he looks at coverage of breaking news in the past hour of joint american british military base in afghanistan. good evening. >> good evening. spokesman for joint command in afghanistan tells fox news this hour about an attack that just occurred at camp bastion, camp letterneck that is said to have involved rockets attack and mortar fire that may have caused fatalities. we're running down the details. whatever the details, the case is tonight, president obama and secretary of state clinton
consulate in benghazi, libya, returning home. good evening. i'm bret baier. we'll have more from that somber ceremony in a minute. a morning that began with friday prayers turned in to a day with americans under assault on several continents. fires burning. tear gas flowing. bullets flying around u.s. embassies. the questions tonight focus on security. what warnings the president and his administration may have had of the deadly attack on the libyan consulate on september 11. a day that should...
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ambassador in benghazi, libya. the wave of anti-american protests and violence now sweeping the globe. for more on what happened and why, let's bring in the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, dr. susan rice. dr. rice, thank you for joining us. >> first of all, what is the latest on who these attackers were at the embassy or at the consulate in benghazi? we're hearing that the libyans are arresting people. they're saying some people were from outside the country and some even al qaeda ties. what's the latest information? >> jake, first of all, it's important to know that there's an fbi investigation that has begun and it will take some time to be completed. that will tell us with certainty what transpired. but our current assessment, is that in fact what began as a spontaneous not a premeditated response to what had transpired in cairo, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this video that was disseminated. we believe that folks in benghazi, a small number of people came to the consulate
ambassador in benghazi, libya. the wave of anti-american protests and violence now sweeping the globe. for more on what happened and why, let's bring in the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, dr. susan rice. dr. rice, thank you for joining us. >> first of all, what is the latest on who these attackers were at the embassy or at the consulate in benghazi? we're hearing that the libyans are arresting people. they're saying some people were from outside the country and some even al qaeda...
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we're learning more about the attacks in benghazi that resulted in the death of chris stevens and three of his colleagues. sean smith was online the night of the attack. he sent messages one of them to a friend online. while protesters were gathering outside of the consulate and he said this. assuming we don't die tonight. we saw one of our "unquote police that guard the compound taking pictures. cnn armand damon joins us now. you had a chance to walk through that compound. give me a feel for what you've seen, what you witnessed in the aftermath of these murders. >> reporter: it really is quite chilling to be standing inside that compound, even with the bare information we have trying to piece together the events that transpired there on tuesday. the buildings are gutted. they have been burned. there's black soot across many of the walls. there's debris littering the floors. there's some -- we spoke with a security guard, a libyan security guard and even though he said the security guard is only armed with a radio who was manning one of the main entrances into the consulate compound and
we're learning more about the attacks in benghazi that resulted in the death of chris stevens and three of his colleagues. sean smith was online the night of the attack. he sent messages one of them to a friend online. while protesters were gathering outside of the consulate and he said this. assuming we don't die tonight. we saw one of our "unquote police that guard the compound taking pictures. cnn armand damon joins us now. you had a chance to walk through that compound. give me a feel...
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in benghazi. this clearly seems to be more of someone called a blowback on the u.s. government for its support for its military support of all kinds of fighters in libya against gaddafi, including the islamic extremists. >> that is a fair point. even after the democratization process, it is clear the u.s. is not seen in a positive way and all the muslim countries. even though we have a kind of try to be recognized by the democrats -- as democrats. what happened in libya, it is clearly connected to the role of the united states when it comes to dealing with terrorists and the factions in libya. this is something that is clearly a bad perception, at negative perception. the point is how this is going to revolve when people are trying to deal with emotions and pushing for this? the islamic reference in such a way will be on two fronts. first, within the sunni tradition, the clash between the liberalists and the other trends and the salafist movement that is very much acting on it and using the popula
in benghazi. this clearly seems to be more of someone called a blowback on the u.s. government for its support for its military support of all kinds of fighters in libya against gaddafi, including the islamic extremists. >> that is a fair point. even after the democratization process, it is clear the u.s. is not seen in a positive way and all the muslim countries. even though we have a kind of try to be recognized by the democrats -- as democrats. what happened in libya, it is clearly...